Sun, 7 February 2010
This podcast includes: Brad Layland and Pat Rhoades discussing Adult Development Opportunities with Jay Abraham.
Jay Abraham is a Senior Development Director living in
There are a lot of adults the Lord has graced with resources who don’t have time to go and do club but say, “I can write a check for a certain amount.”
But there’s something about getting an adult to see it. We discussed adult guest opportunities a few weeks ago but there’s another sort of adventure program which Jay’s been spearheading - first as a volunteer and now as part of his job. This is a different kind of development opportunity. The last 4 summers Jay has taken groups on adventure opportunities. This summer he did a Father/Son base camp at Beyond up in
The last 4 summers he’s taken groups of 12 – 18 people and the intent of that is to create a transformational experience an opportunity where adults get to experience nearly what teens experience. It’s an opportunity to get up and away which we did for a week each summer. It also gave them an opportunity to get down to
Pioneer Plunge is the east coast equivalent to Beyond Malibu. As an area director, if I bring some guys I can bring them to camp and experience camp with them. If I was an area director who took 4 with me for a
The experience we just had this weekend is a good example. We took 26 men who’ve been with the mission a long time, most of them on committee, burnt out, kind of tired. We just took the handcuffs off the experiences they’ve always thought of, the rubber chicken dinner and golf tournament, and turned it into, “Hey! You mean I can go experience some of this?” You mean I could have that kind of experience? As area director you have to look at adults the same way as you look at kids. They want community. They want adventure and they want transformational opportunities. If you can recreate something like that, which was what we saw this weekend, These guys are going home thinking differently, acting differently and are full of excited enthusiasm for their areas.
Our mission statement says we introduce adolescents to Jesus Christ. Often we think our only purpose is to minister to kids, but how do we do it? We do it with adults being volunteers and being involved.
What does Jay mean by transformational? Brad thinks a lot of area directors think it’s supposed to be transactional with a donor. That’s why it’s a fearful thing. You’re going in front of a business owner or a potential donor and asking them for something. Give them an experience instead. You didn’t go to a kid you didn’t know yet and say, “Do you want to be with Jesus Christ?” You invite them to club and invite them to camp and just keep on inviting them to participate. It’s just doing the same thing with adults. They have all the same needs a young kid has. Jay has seen it happen time and time again. You build the relationship and in that experience you just keep inviting them. Then it’s easy to ask them if Christ is part of that equation when you invite them into something like that. They’re asking you how to become involved, “I want more of that!” When men come they get the opportunities to witness God in their own lives and that of others and they’re saying, “Hey I want more of that! Women get the same. We are putting together an “all woman” experience and a “couples experience”. They’re walking in life together let’s have them experience this together.
Brad’s on the Young Life committee for the
As an area director, gather people around you and have them be a part of your lives. The biggest concern would be if you think of a donor, not as an opportunity to be with them in life, but as a check they can give you. You’ve missed the boat. You need to ask for help. Ask your regional director or a development staff person. Nobody wants to be used this way.
Thanks for being with us today Jay. We are glad he was here. Thanks for listening and remember to maximize your time for ministry with kids by Taking Donors Seriously.